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Post by Tony Howard on Jun 27, 2010 0:05:43 GMT -5
Ball season is over so now I will have time to put together some lure for the up coming season. I will only be making two types this year for the land line. I will have time, even though it is hot.
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Post by kirk on Jun 28, 2010 0:22:41 GMT -5
Tony just catch Amy gone off shopping or somthing like that do it in the house you can always blame the smell on the neighbor's kids lol
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Post by Tony Howard on Jun 28, 2010 20:52:31 GMT -5
Kirk, when I go to making lure the whole neighborhood knows about it.
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Post by kirk on Jun 29, 2010 0:17:54 GMT -5
LOL on that Tony
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Post by Tony Howard on Jun 29, 2010 21:54:34 GMT -5
I am working on a grey cat lure. We will have to see what happens. It want smell to bad. In fact I am sure you can sniff out the contents real easy, I just don' know how much I can make.
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Post by Tony Howard on Aug 21, 2010 20:55:53 GMT -5
Well the lure is going good so far. Mixed up about 12 oz using fresh glands. I tried to lock the smell/scent in with a new type of preservative and then set in paste with a new fixture.
The goal is to have the main scent as grey fox with two sub gland scents that fox like as a food source. The thinking behind it is to get the fox to the set thinking another fox buried something for a later date. If I can get him to stick his nose down the hole to get a better sniff of the sub glands in the lure, well I will have him. I know where his foot will be if he stick that nose in the right spot.
After mixing and capping with an expansion value, the gases built for a day in the heat then deflated the expansion value. My hope is the preservatives will stop the decay of the glands and keep them in a fresh stage. Even if I have to keep the lure refrigerated till season, I want the glands as fresh as possible. I know most folks use aged glands in their lure, but I am trying a different approach. I will be deploying the cameras this week with the lure as long as the expansion value does not build gas again.
On a side note, I got some the lure on my hands and could not wash it off with soap or hand cleaner. This is a good size that it will leach into the ground or my applicator and stay for a while. Smell good too.
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Post by ibeenfishing on Aug 21, 2010 21:31:24 GMT -5
Is your expansion valve a balloon?
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Post by Tony Howard on Aug 21, 2010 22:24:27 GMT -5
Is your expansion valve a balloon? Yep, real close to it any way.
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Post by ibeenfishing on Aug 22, 2010 14:50:48 GMT -5
I saw a lure makinging set up were a guy took some jars put holes in lids,then inserted plastic tubing into lid and sealed with silcone.Kinda like a old fashion moonshine stil---the jars were kinda like perking in the tube in the sun and all going into a catch jar.Neat set up i might have try that one day!
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Post by Tony Howard on Aug 24, 2010 15:50:24 GMT -5
Most people think lure has to stink to catch something, when in fact that is not true. Animals are just like humans, there are things that make them hungry, things that make sexually aroused and things that just plain turn them off. Just because something stinks does not mean they animal will react the way you want them to.
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Post by Tony Howard on Aug 30, 2010 11:50:13 GMT -5
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Post by Robert Smith on Aug 31, 2010 10:15:42 GMT -5
Looks like that might be a good batch.
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Post by Tony Howard on Aug 31, 2010 12:03:38 GMT -5
Two things you can learn from the video Robert. First it was the wrong species that checked it out. Second, Although it is common for coons to check out almost ever lure put out, it did not hold his attention long enough to have caught him unless I had the trap set just right. And you notice that only one of the coons checked it out, but did not taste it or test it, but rather moved on. I modified 2 oz and redeployed the cameras in a new area. In modifying I did not change the scent but rather thinned it down to allow more vapors and the scent to travel farther. I am still not on fox yet, as I am looking for a cat and his reaction to the lure. I caught a job ADC today so I will be setting that tomorrow evening and will pick the cameras up Thurs and see what if anything came through. I am trying to pick a cat up on deer trails. I have them set at two different location about 7 miles apart. I might pick one up tomorrow during lunch if I can, but I want to give them three days at least. I will keep y'all posted with videos and how the lure works. Good, bad or ugly, I will let you know.
What makes today's lure testing so much better is the video cameras. What use to be done with tracks and catch totals is now done in the set location with a real view of how the animals react. Two years ago I found that a bait I had taken many animals on was not really not worth a flip when I found that the animals circled it many times before committing. I also found that a lure I knew worked great but I just had the trap set wrong in the bed, fact brought the animal to the set location to sniff once and leave, never getting close enough to be caught. I did not have the trap set to catch the animal on the "Stand off and Check out approach", I was setting for them to work the set.
Not knocking your thoughts Robert, but with the reaction the coon gave, if they all act that way, I might catch maybe 50% of the animals that come to the set. That is not a bad number, but for me I am looking for 90% and a lure that drives them crazy and makes them want more, like the fox digging the hole video, or the pole dancing fox. Will I find it? Don't know till I try. I am going for a totally different approach to the lure making spectrum with nothing rotten at all in my lure. We will see if my plan works or not.
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Post by Robert Smith on Aug 31, 2010 14:11:10 GMT -5
AAAHHH it is a video! let me watch it!
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Post by Robert Smith on Aug 31, 2010 14:53:57 GMT -5
OK, now that I saw the video.......I have a question.
Do you find that a simple lure does better than one with a bunch of stuff in it? IE. this one has three different glands as per the post above. One fox and two food.
Is this considered simple or busy? Do you ever take the different glands and spread them out at the sets? like another fox burried a cache and then marked his territory 6-10 ft away?
Can a lure get too busy with too many scents?
I have been reading up on this and am trying to figure out more.
Thanks for the lessons!
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